In follow-up to my 2024 podcast interview about carnivore conservation in the Pacific Northwest, Rewilding Earth invited me to record a brief update as part of a year-end special episode. The episode aired just before the New Year.

When we agreed to talk about carnivore conservation with Jack Humphrey for the podcast, Rewilding Earth, Robert (Long) and I knew we’d be in for an interesting conversation. Jack has hosted more than a hundred of these podcasts over the last few years, and each one explores yet another fascinating tendril of rewilding—the bold approach to conservation that has driven our respective careers for the better part of three decades.

In this podcast interview with “How It Looks From Here,” I talk with host Mary Clare about my longstanding relationships with writing and rewilding, and how the two have been intertwined throughout my life and career. A social psychologist and deep thinker, Mary guides our conversation with skill, generosity, and her own love for wild nature.

The Black Tones was founded by Eva and her twin brother, Cedric, whose drums are the heartbeat to his sister’s vocals and guitar. In my pre-interview research, I discovered that this dynamic duo (Cedric has called himself Robin to Eva’s Batman) has developed an impassioned fan base in Seattle and well beyond. Now I know why.